I need to know please New Comics. So yeah, this is the same Beyonder that had PR Molecule Man crying on Vulcana's lap and decimated the entire multiverse just by getting angry. Beyonder wins this, Lucifer along with his brother Michael are equal to LT, and PR Beyonder is better than LT any day of the week. 29. Not everything needs to have the uni/multi/omniverse on the line. . And the LT he beat was undefined. However, that scan of her being able to have an effect on PR Beyonder was pretty badass. That feat alone puts him solidly above Lucifer who's best "multiversal" feat was destroying the mirrors, which he didn't even do by himself. 0. So you cant say ToAA > Pr Beyonder. Because PR Beyonder was a multiverse personified, so does that mean that each of these new Beyonders are also their own Multiverse? No. Alien X is free of any indecisiveness, and both are bloodlusted. The beyonders were stated to be bound by linear time. PR Beyonder may have slightly better feats than Lucifer, he's not nearly as crafty. British_Tea_Company • 7 yr. 2 years ago. It's pretty much PR Beyonder , LT & HOTU Thanos vs Lucifer Morningstar, Michael Demiurgos, full power Spectre, WF Mxy & COIE Anti Monitor , with a small assist from the rest of their teams . Magic, on the other hand, is stuff you can’t do with science, it’s the realm of basically gods in Fate. PR Beyonder was stated clearly to be omnipotent in almost every issue of Secret Wars 1 & 2, so you can't deny. He is bigger than the multiverse, which is infinite in size. 2 years ago. Forum Posts. RULES:Morals off. 8 years ago. i don,t have a pics but i do no some facts that are apparent: 1 the phoenix force has on. " @Pr_Beyonder said: " @Decoy Elite: Hey,Disco suits were B. PR Beyonder is millions of times stronger than the Marvel multiverse. The Beyonder is an infamous member of the Beyonder race. PR Beyonder is OP, he was originally written to be THE top entity in Marvel, there's no real beating him. Especially considering the only other times to my knowledge I’ve seen PR Beyonder has “struggled” in a fight was when he clashed with Molecule Man and when he admitted Classic Doctor Strange could have incapacitate him indefinitely. 7740. While still a child, the older Beyonders began their grand experiment where they. The Two fight in the beyond realm. Forum Posts. 0. 13 years ago. And of course the LT himself. Bonus Round: Pre-Retcon Molecule Man should also stomp IG Thanos. PR Beyonder was above all beings in marvel. Thanos w/ Astral Regulator is the strongest character in Marvel-verse. 5. 8 years ago. PR Beyonder (Marvel) Takes A DC Gauntlet. Anime/Manga TeamSuper Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann, Elder God Demonbane, Giorno Giovanna (Gold Experience Requiem), Majin Dark Schneide. Reviews. Forums. 1. The character plays a more antagonistic role in the 1985 sequel, Secret Wars II, in which he takes human form to learn about desire but threatens to destroy the multiverse out of increasing frustration. See moreJoin this channel to get access to perks:…PR Beyonder was millions of times powerful than the entire Marvel Multiverse. Round 1: CAS vs. Mxyzptlk. The character plays a more antagonistic role in the 1985 sequel, Secret Wars II, in which he takes human form to learn about desire but threatens to destroy the multiverse out of increasing frustration. ago. Beyonder was the one above all before TOAAPre-Retcon Beyonder kills Thanos no matter what the circumstances are. So. PR Beyonder was designated just under TOAA due to his Omnipotence in his own universe or something to that effect. I haven't been keeping up, but that sounds interesting. EDIT: About Beyonder being gullible and "getting his power's stolen". And boy, DC is supremely addicted to crises. @asuva: @takenstew22: @shadow411: Ren and Reinhard paints the Law of the entire reality itself. @kingant27 said:. Taikyoku is the beginning of all. No. Random encounter. (Cuz there are none. All of the sudden Deku gets a power up and You Say Run starts playing. PR Beyonder existed before all things in existence he was. Martian (Martian Manhunter) 3. I don't know what handbook that text appeared in trying to retcon a retcon, but canonically, beyonders are responsible for the. "GL Kilowog >Odin Thor? "Perhaps not in sheer power, but in implementation. To put it simply, PR Beyonder barely thinks of destroying John Constantine, in. Oh wait that would mean auto win to Marvel. 4 years ago. Doom. Knowsbleed33 says: "PR Beyonder took out a group of Celestials with ease. Nothing more needs to be said. You can't claim the same about Asura's. Archie sonic defeated someone who could destroy millions of MULTI-VERSE zones. The thing is , Beyonder shrugged off a blast that "would have destroyed 1 million dimensions". Who do you think is the strongest in Marvel? Who do you think is the strongest in DC? If they fight who will win???Sure, baby 400 tonner mark LOL, also he made a weird noise just as PR Beyonder made a noise when hulk slammed him. And how do we know PR Beyonder could blink LT out of existence, he could blink lady death out of. Phoenix is on par with those guys. PR Beyonder is intended to be a god within another dimension but this doesn't then make him incapable of being compared to TOAA, especially because PR Beyonder would be effected by the universe. 4 years ago. Yeah, and apparently PR Beyonder was a young version of the Beyonders in the prompt. Follow 2797. He was stated to be millions of times powerful than the Entire Marvel Multiverse Combined which even included The Living Tribunal and Molecule Man and We all know that Living Tribunal is almost as Powerful As Michael Demiurgos. Beyonder by just being angry caused multiversal destruction. PR Beyonder was millions of times powerful than the entire Marvel Multiverse. However PR Beyonder has more power than basically all of existence and attacks that destroyed multiverses were nothing to him. The only real threat to him was the PR Molecule man, who challenged him to a universe breaking smack down which was pretty much a draw. Doctor Doom can steal/absorb power from PR Beyonder, Galactus, Asgardians, Nightmare, Life Force (Reality warping from HoM) etc but couldn't defeat Onslught? That is inconsistent. Van_Cere. PR Beyonder is millions of times stronger than the Marvel multiverse. Pre Retcon Beyonder is more a match for things like SCP 239. Location. More recently in some versions TOAA has got more anti feats that PRB in terms of power, with Thanos events involving TOAA go. 6,407. Like, guys, just focus on like a planetary thing or even a system wide thing. That is how PR Beyonder was described, a verse so vast, that Marvel was a. Like, that kind of thing has to matter, if not, Flash can speed-steal Odin, or Galactus, or PR Beyonder. Beyonder by just being angry caused multiversal destruction. #1 Edited By gokupwnzalllol. for PR, i'm more in line with thinking it's going to be a fight you can't imagine. PR Beyonder was above all beings in marvel. Beyonder was stated to be MILLIONS of times more powerful than THE MULTI-VERSE(at the time equal to OMNI-VERSE) COMBINED. Bo88gdan. 13 years agoAnything they can do the PR beyonder can do if not even do better. Follow 88. Ruphas not in baseline L1A, Ruphas can easily defeated Alovenus which is rated L1A character. Michael and Lucy. Followers. this may get ugly,good match up imo though. Some dude told me this guy was strong but i think goku can with with kamehameha. TOAA is above Thanos with the HOTU, a writer is> the written character. I got this idea from the "PR-Beyonder vs Galactus" thread. PR Beyonder is way beyond than Thanos with IG. 0. is TOAA, or at least part of him. 6 years ago deactivated. The rest of the rounds Marvel is pretty dominant, maybe they could do something in the final round. [deleted]@Pr_Beyonder said: " can't seem to edit my post anyway Pre-Retcon Beyonder and Spectre vs Storm and Batman is probably the biggest spite Hate to hate on bugs bunny but i've seen 5-D imps do. Further to that; Odin, Galactus and, especially Beyonder, are all. I don't know a. 0. 0. How far does he get? R1: The Justice League (Post-Crisis) R2: Superboy Prime. This is Beyonders not the famous PR Beyonder. Originally posted by Air Legend Beyonder in a curbstomp. PR Beyonder is a casual multiverse buster. Pr beyonder blinks away a nigh omni that treat beings that treat beings that treat beings that are multiversal++ level like an outright folder right? She basically controls the plot of her verse. And Secret Wars Beyonder would annihilate all versions. There are 5 magics, and one of the 5 magicians killed the original vampire moon god. Pre-retcon Molecule Man hasn't paid his taxes in like, 10 years, since he's been been galavanting around the universe. @Pr_Beyonder: We Never saw it's limits, But Aang used it to completely seal away phoenix lord Ozai's Fire bending and made it so he "could never hurt anyone ever again. He was a way wanked character. Discussion; Bug Reporting; Delete/Combine Pages@Pr_Beyonder said: " Remember Beyonder's omniscient so. 2. 13 years ago. To make it a shorter list, Beyonder's presence threatens the whole of the Marvel multiverse, and he sweeps aside the Living Tribunal, Galactus, Doom; everything in it basically. Doctor Manhattan is one of the most formidable beings around but his powers are all based on what it is possible. I think you could argue rather convincingly that he's the 2nd moat powerful character in all of fiction, only behind TOAA. The one who shines like Gold upon the Sea of Chaos can beat Cosmic Armor Superman. This isn't a battle,Its an execution. m99. If that's true, the Presence would be way weaker then PR Beyonder. unicron wins and heres why. All are child's play compared to what Bugs could do. deactivated-5d755a684b00b. Composite Batman includes the Darkest Knight and he’s broken as fuck. Beyonder would just make remake everything that was destroyed. I know that Krona vs LT already exists but i havn't seen one where krona has all the items and i think it would be interresting to see them battleTakPR Beyonder is stronger than all Marvel universe and its beings combined by far. 1 year ago. Alot of people seem to have hard time giving HOM Wanda her due. R3: Pre-Crisis Superman. Follow 3068. Lucifer Morningstar vs The Beyonders. Besides when PR Beyonder and PR Molecular Man fought , we know MM was Beyonder's only friend. u/nullfather can attest to that. . User Lists: 0As for the actual two strongest in each verse, I'd maybe say PR-Beyonder vs Lucifer Morningstar/The Gentry/ The Empty Hand. 6 years ago. 13 years. Beyonder could honestly lose to any of the 3,but has the best chance of beating the Gentry at least 7/10. And even then some endless beat pr beyonder. 8 years ago. 5 tons to punch a car. PR Beyonder > Celestials > Phoenix Force. Due to the fact that he is an agent of TOAA (basically god), The Living Tribunal is more powerful than any other entity, including PRB. 0. Elaine Belloc; HOTU ThanosCant find this either O_O; Im sure this was done though. A character debated as though his guns can kill the beyonder, one of the few characters people consider to be able to take on the beyonder or hurt the beyonder. I almost think they should be banned. But tbh I think Lucifer is just a smarter fighter. So, I looked at The Beyonder's (Pre-Retcon)profile and, found out that he is rated Tier High 1-B and likely, 1-A. @majestic99. I hear people say HoTU Thanos = TOAA but I have my doubts, I personally think it's just a fraction of TOAA's power. The heavy hitters for team marvel are PR beyonder, PR molecule man, post-secret wars III molecule man, living tribunal, multiversal eternity, multiversal death. PR Beyonder is on par with TOAA but people tend to put him below because TOAA are Stan Lee and Jack Kirby. PR Beyonder was crazy powerful, and i have seen threads where he would beat thought robot superman. Although the Beyonder was retconned to a Cosmic Cube, he was retconned again into an Inhuman-Mutant, thus he lacks the feats. 9 years ago. KingOfAsh. PR Beyonder was specifically the sum total of a multiverse that dwarfs the Marvel multiverse. Even someone with 0 knowledge of PR Beyonder could look through that or just google and realize this is unholy in terms of the level of stomp. PR-Beyonder was broken, but still not TOAA. He was much, much stronger than fundamental forces of the universe such as Galactus, Entropy, Eternity, etc. The Beyonder: Who Wins In A Fight? By David Harth Published Sep 11, 2020 The Beyonder and Dr. OrdinaryAlan. Beyonder has curb-stomped Celestials and even killed Death, a thing that was so irreversible that not even the most powerful of beings could fix it, besides himself. 11 years ago. After the retcon (1st one) that all changed, but not before it. Round 2: CAS VS PR Beyonder with Living Tribunal. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. But Pre-retcon Beyonder is just a cut above the rest in terms of these characters. Beyonder was the one above all before TOAAPre-Retcon Beyonder kills Thanos no matter what the circumstances are. 2. 3 years ago. The living embodiment of The Beyond Realm, a reality outside of the Marvel multiverse, he utilizes his powers over reality, space, and time to observe the never-ending battle between good and evil, serving as both an ally and enemy to Earth's greatest heroes. PR Beyonder face tanked an attack that could destroy a billion dimensions. He killed Death for fun which still left LT powerless. Standard equipment. The beyonder can warp reality and time as well as creating a real life setting. Beyonder was either just omnipotent or the closest to it that anyone has gotten without being it. Lol good joke about Lucifer beating CAS. Oct 30, 2006. Followers. Forum Posts. 11 years ago. Nihilist. Perpetua, due to far surperior feats. Now picture a third Brother that is so big, the Amalgam Brothers are 2 drops of water next to the ocean. Beyonder is supose to represent the power the writers themselves have over the comics. LT-beating omnipotent. Dr Manhattan is a very proficient matter-energy manipulator. She/Her. He changed the match from ssj2 Goku vs Jin Mori to Sai vs Beyonder lol. Bonus Round: Pre-Retcon Molecule Man should also stomp IG Thanos. Brainiac is a hive consciousness that. One Above All Wasnt around when PR Beyonder was, people liken PRB to what TOAA would of been at the time. So who wins this epic clash to end all clashes? Pre-Retcon Beyonder vs Thanos w/ Infinity Gauntlet. If allowed, Thanos with HOTU or astral regulator is top tier. this would be no different than me or you creating a character and then saying "oh look he can beat Pr Beyonder". Dr Manhattan has the power to control matter as well as subatomic perception and control. He's more PR Beyonder level imo. Could not. Dr. Post-Retcon Beyonder, Pre-Retcon Molecule Man and Unbound Spectre. The Crimson King from The Dark Tower fights The Pre-Retcon Beyonder from Marvel. [deleted]Join Date. also, according to the bible, he can be killed, as the incarnation of Jesus, with a few spear pokes and soem crucifiction. lannfear. The Crimson King decides he's bored and decides to start trolling other verses. vs Arioch vs Dormammu Rules: Round 1:Winner by death, surrender, capture, Random encounter. So by definition, above any DC character except the equivalent of TOAA (The Presence. Round 2: Molecule Man after the retcon Beyonder era. But if you will include that "symbol of heroism/needed for the story" crap, then remove the beyonder. Ehh closest would be PR Beyonder I guess The closest would be geb i think him and the presence when combined are absolute infinite everything. In the OG secret wars LT gathered a crew of the strongest cosmic entitities to face of PR Beyonder and couldnt do anything. Exists alongside all of Heaven in Creation inside of the story. Adam (presumably Gamora too) were outside his reach when he absorbed everything. 12 years ago. Wiki Points. PR-Beyonder was broken, but still not TOAA. This is the original seven and the battle takes place onWhat characters in the Marvel Universe could defeat Michael Demiurgos?Even though Pr Beyonder was published/written by Marvel he was not meant to be a Marvel entity, but an entity outside of the Marvel Actuality - in essence his own Actuality. level 2 · 1y. IMO, PR Beyonder can outdo anything Bill can do and more. Well, since the Beyonders are just a part of this multiverse whereas PR Beyonder was the entirety of a multiverse bigger than the MU, no. The Beyonder, in his own universe, attacked Protege and almost instantly Protege neutralized, Beyonder copying his powers. K. Living_Beyonder. deactivated-5ee15da0e0aad. But Beyonder not only owned the entire MU, he did it casually, and his reality warping makes GEB's powers a non-factor. @laflux said: MOM. Gokuisthebest. There's a few tossups though, I think the Bleach verse has the speed and skill to pull out a win here or there. I'm using universe very loosely here; we're probably on the scale of. Deku remembers All Might then poof PRB is knocked out. 63 results. A. Wiki Points. LT's powers/status was never set, hence the whole retcon deal. They might ruffle his soul-glo hair though, which wouldn't end well for them. Even with her 50/50 negated by her spear, Gungnir, Othinus is in no way comparable to the likes of PR Beyonder or even Beyonder post-retcon. She would stalemate the strongest nigh-omnipotents like PR Beyonder, EDG, etc. This group is a joke compared to Celestials. Follow 75. Pr beyonder blinks away a nigh omni that treat beings that treat beings that treat beings that are multiversal++ level like an outright folder right? She basically controls the plot of her verse. PR Beyonder is just as much close to some of TOAA's powers as HOTU Thanos is. Discussion; Bug Reporting; Delete/Combine PagesRound 1: Thanos has 1 month. If it's spiderman with the power of PR Beyonder then he should win. Just because that occurred, does not mean Pre-Retcon Beyonder's "im ominoptent" statement holds any weight. As for Wanda feats she reformed the multiverse (not omniverse, just the way it was used here) and ALSO stopped/controlled/dispersed. BEYONDERGOD. He is talking about TOAA, not PR Beyonder. PR Beyonder was TOAA before TOAA was established, there was no character of TOAA before or at the time of Secret Wars 1 & 2. 13 years ago. With this skill (plot manipulation), still can affect Pr beyonder. Whats the Greater Force of Power? COSMIC? or MAGIC? you be the Judge. Phoenix is on par with those guys. 0. 14 years ago Lance. New Comics. @laflux said: MOM. Beyonder doesn't stand a chance, Beyonder is a little germ compared to the thought robot, and it would instantly get immune to beyonder reality warping. I realize the Presence is often considered more powerful than PR-Beyonder, but really, going to need feats in this case because this is not the Presence. MM has the powers of the Beyonders, the Beyonders were still linear beings constrained and restricted by time, they were able to be killed by overwhelming power like Starbrand,. Forum Posts. deactivated-5e0e83bb0dbb5. In the Presence's case, Perpetua can create and destroy multiverses, The Judges are above her and the Presence is above them both. He was even above and beyond the writing staff . I’m goin wit Batman. Some dude told me this guy was strong but i think goku can with with kamehameha. He was the TOAA of another mutliverse that came to Marvel's multiverse. Poll Current Lucifer Morningstar vs. m99. I think you could argue rather convincingly that he's the 2nd moat powerful character in all of fiction, only behind TOAA. Pre-ret Beyonder was not god, and he was not TOAA. 1. PR Beyonder - rendered 3 dimensional and was upset by it and confused by it once he left his Beyond realm and entered Marvels multiverse. PR beyonder. @Pr_Beyonder: uncle ben is a boss the LT qoutes him in all honesty he does loose every round except possibly 1 and 5 also hank prime would have to be pressing way more than 1. PR Beyonder existed before all things in existence he was. Iirc HotU isn’t allowed in battles given the type of power it is. this was stated by Jim Shooter the creator of Secret Wars and the beyonder. His weakness is a lack of understanding of. Especially. deactivated-5edd330f57b65. PR Beyonder and it’s not a fight. User Lists: 0 #6 Edited By Crom-Cruach. You can say PR Byonder is more powerful then LT (M), Phoenix Force…hell even Phoenix of the White Crown would probably not be a match…But Those 3 have never met each other, and have bin ranked 2nd only to TTOA. The beyonder can warp reality and time as well as creating a real life setting. Yet, is not responsible for creation. Discussion; Bug Reporting; Delete/Combine PagesPR-Beyonder being from outside of the Living Tribunals domain (whoch he has ultimate judgement over) was really his only weakness. Pre-Rectonned Beyonder, the most powerful multiverse Cosmic Being Marvel has ever created. So Beyonder casually stomping and being above people who casually stomp multiversal beings, is a massive step up. Goku vs Pre Recton Beyonder. So just assume that this the PR version of the Beyond realm. . Beyonder solos. Forum Posts. Fulcrum. The One Above All. I didn't say he was TOAA himself *face palm* BEYONDER was TOAA before TOAA existed BEYONDER was him (TOAA) in his own. So currently it doesn’t matter if you take PR-Beyonder or the current one, both are from the beyond - and as such subjects to the Phoenix‘ judgement and rely on her to exist. PR Beyonder is avobe angels and HOTU Thanos is at presence level as I read in "The End" comics. PR Beyonder>PR MM>LT. There's a LOT of weird hax in Bleach, not even including Aizen. Since this is PR Beyonder he might win, but the whole point of The Endless is that the three most powerful ones are way up there, and all of them combined have the same power level as the Presence. 11,059. The PR Beyonder isn't from the universe and isn't bound by its limitations. Actually i think you have a misconception of the timelines buddy that or your hating on the Marquis of death. IMO Lucifer convinces the Beyonder to kill himself. If TOAA comes to DC and try to challenge The Presence , TOAA will lose since he won't be omnipotent anymore. Thats why Molecule Man (who is weaker than PR Beyonder, but shares his powers) was able to fix it with little to no effort. Silver Age Superman doesn't have universe+ feats which the Cosmic Cube Beyonder had and PR Beyonder was beyond multiverse+ level. While secret wars came out in 1984 it extended to 1985 which i believe was when Molecule man made his secret wars appearance. " I agree for the most part,the way I see this. i mean ya the pr beyonder and dr solar are apparently omnipotent , but you should not forget the phoenix . Due to the fact that he is an agent of TOAA (basically god), The Living Tribunal is more powerful than any other entity, including PRB. @kingant27 said:. Doctor Manhattan couldn't really affect the Beyonder with any of his powers while the Beyonder can break the laws of nature and. Mad Jim Jaspers Vs. 3rd. MM solo's. doomsday49. Follow 3313. This puts Beyonder at LT+ with MM a close second, followed by the Beyonders and HOTU. We're fighting the Guardians now the new ones (Hal, Atroticus, Lareeflezz, Sinestro, Carol, Saint walker, Indigo 1) Atroticus is Blood luInhuman BeyonderPost-Retcon Molecule ManLiving TribunalOblivionGalactus w/ Ultimate NulifierMad Jim JaspersHeralds of Galactus:The Fallen OneSilver SuThe Beyonder (/ b i ˈ ɒ n d ər /) is a fictional cosmic entity appearing in American comic books published by Marvel Comics. Pre-ret Beyonder was not god, and he was not TOAA. #1 Edited By bluepride1234. The Two fight in the beyond realm. 2 years ago. 13 years ago. Follow 15044. 63 results. Copy. Yes. 13 years ago. he would get tricked out of his powers without having a sure fire way of getting them back like he did with Dr. I am guessing since you said The Beyonder rather than A Beyonder you mean PR Beyonder, in which case he stomps. The beyonder should be able to Reply CyberpunkV2077 • Additional comment actions. 5. @lariend said: Missmatch any from team 2 can solo. The Beyonder (Pre-Retcon)should be Tier 0. Manhattan's league. @majestic99. When Goku fought Tao the second time, at that point, I think Goku was stronger than Master Roshi was when they fought at the. 9 years ago.